I’ve listened to this podcast episode a couple of times now. The part that really caught me this time was how the leader is the interference. This resonated with me as I’ve seen work culture which comes from the top-down (the micro-managing CEO breads micro-managing managers etc. When the CEO looks for the person to blame, the buck gets passed down the chain) but I realised that I must be causing issues I’m unaware of. The idea that our attitude in one sphere might influence/reflect our attitude in another is one that is both obvious and counter-intuitive at the same time.